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jhermiz
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
11752 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-25 : 11:36:14
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well i like it...it's been a hard labour for our jon from the birth of database to the painting of gui...Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow  |
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kselvia
Aged Yak Warrior
526 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-25 : 12:06:01
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| Very nice. Kudos.--KenI want to die in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers. |
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jsmith8858
Dr. Cross Join
7423 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-25 : 12:26:34
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| looks very sharp. I like it ! and you've been learning ASP.NET as you go ! very impressive.- Jeff |
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MichaelP
Jedi Yak
2489 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-25 : 12:32:19
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| Jon,Very nice! Well done!Michael<Yoda>Use the Search page you must. Find the answer you will.</Yoda> |
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jhermiz
3564 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-25 : 12:58:10
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| I dont know what i was doing writing windows apps :-)..Web apps are much more exciting (Good Lord I sound lame now :)).Well I really really like .net especially asp.net. All this object oriented programming is much better and cleaner from some of my previous projects of code that just flows down :-d.Thanks to all for the help and suggestions!Jon |
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Kristen
Test
22859 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-25 : 13:23:50
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| Its not having to make sure everything fits into a dialog box at any size of LARGE font the user may have set windows to; and all that drill down stuff is so much easier with HREFs. And so much more can be mechanically generated & re-generated. And and and ....In fact, where, in English, can you use the phrase "and and and and and and and"? <g>Kristen |
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rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen
3279 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-25 : 13:40:27
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That looks very good, and I actually looked for things to criticize  rockmoose/* Chaos is the nature of things...Order is a lesser state of chaos */ |
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Kristen
Test
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joldham
Wiseass Yak Posting Master
300 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-29 : 21:24:27
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| Jon,Are you going to be releasing this app or did you do it for work? I have an idea you might want to consider. Drop me a line if you wish at jeremy.oldham ATNOSPAM gmail.comJeremy W. Oldham |
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byrmol
Shed Building SQL Farmer
1591 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-30 : 03:05:55
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| What is this? A love in?He asked for criticism, not a back massage.1) Empty results sets still show the column names and html outlines (attach.jpg). Consider a nice text message instead.2) There is a mix of text justification. "Left side" work area has right justified labels but the "main" area has left and right justified text. Consider a standard 3) "Help" tab should be the last tab on the right. "Admin" tab should be displayed only if the user has rights.4) English speakers read from left to right. Consider moving the tabs and "Good Morning" stuff to the left and move the main heading and image to the right. You'll need to reverse the linear color gradient as well.5) The paging numbers could go to the left and perhaps some navigation arrows as well.6) Why is the "biological hazard" warning sign in the logo? [url]http://www.speedysigns.com/signs/WARNING_Biological_Hazard_Authorized_Personnel_Only.asp[/url]Overall, it seems like fairly clean interface.DavidM"Always pre-heat the oven" |
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Kristen
Test
22859 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-30 : 07:56:00
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| "Empty results sets still show the column names and html outlines (attach.jpg). Consider a nice text message instead."FWIW we use "bail out" pages for this. We have a special recordset (i.e. the name of Column 1 is "special") and a central function which checks the validity of each recordset (ADO errors, BOF [b]and{/b] EOF true, etc.). After an Execute it is called, AND when we do a NextRecordSet. Anyway, if it sees a first column name of "BAILOUT", or whatever, it takes appropriate action - in this case a Meta Redirect. The benefit of this is that we can easily customise the message, rather than having to do to the SProc, or somewhere deep in the code, to get to where the message is stored."What is this? A love in?"Good point, here goes:On home.jpg I'd like an ADD button next to the Issues and Action sectionsOn log.jpg "Issue Description" looks very wide, but not very tall. The content might be more readable if narrower & tallerOn actions.jpg - again, I would have an "Add an Issue" as part of the "Issue Description" I'd probably want functionality to "Add a note" too - "I just had this too and noticed that it only happens when ..." (is that what "Attachments" does? If so I'd like an ADD button here.Can you transfer an issue to another person? Or to a department (set it back to new, next person grabbing an issue, in that deparmtent, gets it)Are you interested in functionality of existing systems? Or have you done that analysis and have a narrow feature spec that you are happy with? (I've had a look at both Pre-sales CRM, Post-sales CRM [bug/feature request/training needed! type issues] and systems for handling syustem development (in part driven by Customer Requests), so I can suggest some packages that I looked at that had features that were interestingOn attach.jpg - have you got a COM object or somewuch that lets you upload a file AND the form contents at the same time? Will it handle the MIME type - so that you can click on an attachment in the list and "see" the data?Search/jpg - I tend to want to look at issues that are on my pile - that is to say Open, but not given back to the client etc. So if I reply (and indicate as much) then the issue is now with the client, not me. I like the concept that at any one time an issue has an owner ... you can have Escalation etc. of the issue does not move from that owner within reasonable timeframeI would show the century in the datesKristen |
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jhermiz
3564 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-30 : 14:44:16
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Originally posted by byrmol
What is this? A love in?He asked for criticism, not a back massage.1) Empty results sets still show the column names and html outlines (attach.jpg). Consider a nice text message instead.2) There is a mix of text justification. "Left side" work area has right justified labels but the "main" area has left and right justified text. Consider a standard 3) "Help" tab should be the last tab on the right. "Admin" tab should be displayed only if the user has rights.4) English speakers read from left to right. Consider moving the tabs and "Good Morning" stuff to the left and move the main heading and image to the right. You'll need to reverse the linear color gradient as well.5) The paging numbers could go to the left and perhaps some navigation arrows as well.6) Why is the "biological hazard" warning sign in the logo? [url]http://www.speedysigns.com/signs/WARNING_Biological_Hazard_Authorized_Personnel_Only.asp[/url]Overall, it seems like fairly clean interface.DavidM"Always pre-heat the oven"
David,1)I could update this each day to show the various changes, but I dont think its worth the time to keep doing the screen captures, was just looking for feedback on the interface2)Will work on that3)Admin tab is displayed only for admins...I am an admin therefore you see it4)This isn't only going to be in English but I get your point5)Paging was to the left, client requested a move to the right, not a biggie6)Its the company logo...Thanks,JonPS: No one gave me a back massage, it's called being nice, you might want to try that once in a lifetime :) |
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jhermiz
3564 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-30 : 14:47:45
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Originally posted by Kristen
"Empty results sets still show the column names and html outlines (attach.jpg). Consider a nice text message instead."FWIW we use "bail out" pages for this. We have a special recordset (i.e. the name of Column 1 is "special") and a central function which checks the validity of each recordset (ADO errors, BOF [b]and{/b] EOF true, etc.). After an Execute it is called, AND when we do a NextRecordSet. Anyway, if it sees a first column name of "BAILOUT", or whatever, it takes appropriate action - in this case a Meta Redirect. The benefit of this is that we can easily customise the message, rather than having to do to the SProc, or somewhere deep in the code, to get to where the message is stored."What is this? A love in?"Good point, here goes:On home.jpg I'd like an ADD button next to the Issues and Action sectionsOn log.jpg "Issue Description" looks very wide, but not very tall. The content might be more readable if narrower & tallerOn actions.jpg - again, I would have an "Add an Issue" as part of the "Issue Description" I'd probably want functionality to "Add a note" too - "I just had this too and noticed that it only happens when ..." (is that what "Attachments" does? If so I'd like an ADD button here.Can you transfer an issue to another person? Or to a department (set it back to new, next person grabbing an issue, in that deparmtent, gets it)Are you interested in functionality of existing systems? Or have you done that analysis and have a narrow feature spec that you are happy with? (I've had a look at both Pre-sales CRM, Post-sales CRM [bug/feature request/training needed! type issues] and systems for handling syustem development (in part driven by Customer Requests), so I can suggest some packages that I looked at that had features that were interestingOn attach.jpg - have you got a COM object or somewuch that lets you upload a file AND the form contents at the same time? Will it handle the MIME type - so that you can click on an attachment in the list and "see" the data?Search/jpg - I tend to want to look at issues that are on my pile - that is to say Open, but not given back to the client etc. So if I reply (and indicate as much) then the issue is now with the client, not me. I like the concept that at any one time an issue has an owner ... you can have Escalation etc. of the issue does not move from that owner within reasonable timeframeI would show the century in the datesKristen
Thanks for the feedback however all those buttons to me makes a fussy and hard to use interface. If you need to add an issue the tab is right there "log issue". Also it does show you your issues...the main page is basically a dashboard to the user showing issues and action items. Issues are never transferred so we dont need that functionality, nor are they changed to a different department. The attachment group does allow you to view the document, you simply click on the row in the grid.Jon |
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Kristen
Test
22859 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-31 : 02:32:57
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| "Thanks for the feedback however all those buttons to me makes a fussy and hard to use interface."What was in my mind was that once I've navigated to a particular place, and I then realise I have something to add, being able to press ADD on that screen means that most of the context is known - so if I'm on a particular ISSUE then an ADD ACTION button would be able to assume that I was adding an Action to that Issue - and [say] pre-fill some of the answers.We get quite a lot of users saying "how do I do X - I'm on the Y page". Its a bit like trying to find the right blinking menu in a Windows app - why not have aliases in other places where people might consider starting from?But I certainly agree with not over-burdening the interface.Kristen |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-31 : 08:17:21
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PS: No one gave me a back massage, it's called being nice, you might want to try that once in a lifetime
Dave IS a nice guy.You asked to be criticized, waddaya want ?Damian |
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Kristen
Test
22859 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-31 : 12:25:20
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| A back massage? Kristen |
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jhermiz
3564 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-31 : 12:47:51
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PS: No one gave me a back massage, it's called being nice, you might want to try that once in a lifetime
Dave IS a nice guy.You asked to be criticized, waddaya want ?Damian
Criticism can be good or bad...my point was no one gave me a back massage some people said the interface was nice, and I was thankful. No need for comments to put someone down on something they have worked on...even if he said I dont like it, that would of been better then trying to offset everyone. |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
15732 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-31 : 12:54:35
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| Really Jon, you ASK for criticism and then when you get it you take offense? Nothing David said was mean-spirited or meant to put you down. Go read them again. His only suggestions were places for improvement, that no one else had provided up until that point. |
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rockmoose
SQL Natt Alfen
3279 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-31 : 13:54:56
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I would be very happy if someone took the time and looked at my work and came up with some points of critisism/alternatives/questions/suggestions/etc.It shows that they care enough and have taken time to actually look through things.It's much better than having people just say good, good, fine, and then when they actually start using the productTHEN they start coming up with things to change  Back massage:It looks very good, I'm sure it is perfect and there is no room for improvementrockmoose |
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jhermiz
3564 Posts |
Posted - 2004-10-31 : 16:18:56
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Really Jon, you ASK for criticism and then when you get it you take offense? Nothing David said was mean-spirited or meant to put you down. Go read them again. His only suggestions were places for improvement, that no one else had provided up until that point.
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