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Tim
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Posted - 2002-02-25 : 06:14:06
Sorry to be off topic but I can't find or get an answer to this anywhere.

here's the facts:

I want to develop a new asp application using .NET
VisualStudio.NET costs me over a thousand bucks.
VisualBasic.NET costs me 200 bucks
I will never write code in C# or JScript
Th .NET SDK is a free download

So I can't figure out from all the related sites and NGs if VB.NET is all I need.

VB doc says I can make web forms but I am worried there is some gotcha in there.

Can anyone fill me in ??

THanks a bunch....








Nazim
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1408 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-25 : 23:35:19
I think you are better off buying Vb.net . Can easily create a Asp.Net Application using VB.Net.

you should remember one thing. Asp.Net uses CLR(Common Language Runtime ) library coz of which you can use multiple languages to create your .Net application. Vb.Net is one among them. i have tried putting more then one language in a application and it works fine. but its not recommended.

if you need furthur info or help , feel free to ask.

HTH

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Merkin
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4970 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-25 : 23:41:18
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but its not recommended.




Why isn't it recommended ? All the MS stuff I have been to they are very proud of that fact. I would say it's not a good idea to have 3 guys on a project using C# and one using vb just from a maintainence perspective. But is there any technical reason why not ?

Damian
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Nazim
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Posted - 2002-02-26 : 00:36:16
Damina,Apart from the reason you have mentioned . it leads to unnecessary complexitites. and its very difficult to follow the code. Try it and you wouldnt want to do it again.

Am not sure about any technical reasons. but i remember some MS guy telling me to stick with one lang in a application. if i find any technical reason would post back .

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Why isn't it recommended ? All the MS stuff I have been to they are very proud of that fact. I would say it's not a good idea to have 3 guys on a project using C# and one using vb just from a maintainence perspective. But is there any technical reason why not ?




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Merkin
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Posted - 2002-02-26 : 00:38:47
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it leads to unnecessary complexitites.



Such as ?

Damian
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Nazim
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1408 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-26 : 00:53:09
Difficult to Debug and Document.

but one thing it provides is using them for their specialities. but i personally felt C# in itself provides a lot.







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Merkin
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Posted - 2002-02-26 : 00:59:19
But the debugger works across files in different languages.

I sort of agree with the documentation, it means you won't have a standard format.

I do like the javadoc ripoff that they put into C#.

By the way, I'm not trying to pick a fight, I really was interested in why developing in different languages isn't recommended. The multi language in a project and debug across different languages are one of the things they have really plugged. So I would be curious why they are now not recommending it.

However MS tell us we should name our ASP include files .inc and our tables tbl so they are not to belived at face value.

Damian
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Nazim
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Posted - 2002-02-26 : 01:06:57
Nah! i never thought you were picking up a fight or something like that. its good that you asked , i had used multiple language features and had a hell of difficulty . Actually , what i thought is when you can code in a single language i wouldnt recommend anyone to go for another language just for the heck of it. yeah, if the other language does the same task with considerable increase in efficency then should go for it.

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By the way, I'm not trying to pick a fight



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Merkin
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Posted - 2002-02-26 : 01:12:50
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i wouldnt recommend anyone to go for another language just for the heck of it.



We wouldn't be programmers if we lived by that philosophy. I know I started by learning stuff just for the heck of it. When I stop learning, I get so bored and frustrated. The search for knowledge is why I love this line of work.

Damian
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Nazim
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1408 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-26 : 01:19:38
Damian , you didnt get me in right context i was talking about using multiple languages in a single application. that was the whole argument about.

yeah, i fully agree with you about this field. and our quest to know about things which when we start off never know its importance or use. i have always maintained LIFE stands for Learning Is ForEver.

Ah! Now i can say someone is trying to pick a fight
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We wouldn't be programmers if we lived by that philosophy. I know I started by learning stuff just for the heck of it. When I stop learning, I get so bored and frustrated. The search for knowledge is why I love this line of work.




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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!

4970 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-26 : 01:24:40
are you trying to pick one ?



Damian
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate

1479 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-26 : 01:32:50
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are you trying to pick one ?



I keep trying but I fail miserably.

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I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money"
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Nazim
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1408 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-26 : 01:36:26
Never! i love peace and wouldnt dare to pick one with you atleast , you rock when you fight too


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are you trying to pick one ?



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Tim
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Posted - 2002-02-26 : 05:53:01
One reason that the interoperability between languages is a good thing is that it makes web services much easier since providers can use language of choice, while I can use my choice too.

I will be using one language only, particularly if I can save cash because I don't really need VS.NET if VB.NET will do !!

So I am poor, and will only go as far as VS.NET pro edition if I have to. I looked at this page [url]http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/howtobuy/choosing.asp[/url] and I would expect most of the pro edition features to be in VB.NET, except additional languages.

If anyone knows for sure, I would like to know which of the pro edition features are NOT in VB.NET...

Thanks a bunch!

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Nazim
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Posted - 2002-02-26 : 08:22:27
Thought this link will help you.

http://www.aspalliance.com/wisemonk/view.aspx?id=AP022302




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Tim
Starting Member

392 Posts

Posted - 2002-02-26 : 21:39:56
thx m8... seems to indicate VB.NET is enough for me.

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