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henrikop
Constraint Violating Yak Guru
280 Posts |
 Posted - 2002-05-21 : 09:40:29
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| I can't find the answer on this simple question?If I read Rob Volk's profile I notice he's working for SQL Team.I profit from this site greatly. As a freelancer I need help all the time, and this is the best place to find answers. I'd like to contribute, but don't know how.So, how does SQLTeam stay alive?Henri~~~SQL is nothing, writing it everything. |
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JustinBigelow
SQL Gigolo
1157 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 10:13:18
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graz (the big cheese of SQLTeam) is a  rancher by trade and makes millions off the yak commodities markets, and SQLTeam is a tax shelter.just kidding  Justin |
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Nazim
A custom title
1408 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 10:31:11
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In What way do you plan to Contribute?.Couple of ways, i know of iswriting a Article for that click on the link "Write an Article" Second way is answering other people's question. Third Buy From SQLTeam.com Storefourth Tell people about SQLTeamIf you want to help financially,Woo Hoo!!!! wait for graz to pass you his account no -------------------------------------------------------------- |
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henrikop
Constraint Violating Yak Guru
280 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 11:18:11
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| I am talking cash :-)Writing articles cost lots of time, and time is money. It's that simple. So I'm not really planning to write articles (or buy books, because I dislike books)), or answering a lot of questions, there're others who do that better, so the only thing left is getting rid of some money. But only to support the site and the service provided.Henri~~~SQL is nothing, writing it everything. |
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MichaelP
Jedi Yak
2489 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 13:07:01
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| Sounds like graz needs to setup a PayPal donation thing. I've seen lots of gaming sites that have something like that.Or maybe setup some sort of "paid membership" type thing. Contribute $x and get yer name on some list.I know I'd be willing to contribute a few bucks towards something like this. I know running a site like this costs bucks, and advertising pays ver few bucks usually.Just a few thoughts... Michael |
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graz
Chief SQLTeam Crack Dealer
4149 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 14:36:51
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What is this "money" thing of which you speak? I'm supposed to make this "money" as you call it from web sites? What an amazing concept! I've been doing it wrong this whole time. Oh well.On the serious side, SQLTeam.com is about a break even proposition at this point -- provided I work for free :) Advertising, book and merchandise sales cover most of the out of pocket expenses. I do have a PayPal account setup and have considered accepting donations but haven't done anything with it yet. As Nazim said I prefer people donate back to the site through articles and forum participation. Especially articles :) I also realize that isn't always a possibility.I have considered a tiered membership program. Ars Technica started this recently (http://arstechnica.com/etc/subscribe/subscribe-1.html) and I've been following it trying to determine how well it works for them. At this point I'm not exactly sure what benefits I could offer over and above what we already provide. If you have some ideas feel free to provide them.If you are still serious about making a donation please email me (graz@sqlteam.com) and I'll track down the details for you. If a large number of you are interested I'll see about getting a donations page posted. The money will be used to reward the authors. I currently try to get them each a SQLTeam.com shirt or some other logo product. And yes, I know I'm behind -- I have this little procrastination issue. I'd like to get some nice shirts made up (stitched logo on denim or some such) and give those out. Or maybe an Amazon gift certificate. Or possibly a raffle of some type. Or maybe I could just use the money to pay Rob to finish the Yak Reader Challenge  ===============================================Creating tomorrow's legacy systems today.One crisis at a time. |
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AjarnMark
SQL Slashing Gunting Master
3246 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 14:58:24
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Or maybe I could just use the money to pay Rob to finish the Yak Reader Challenge
If that's what it's going to take, I'll bet you could get a lot of donations!  |
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henrikop
Constraint Violating Yak Guru
280 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 15:42:22
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| Besides this is really the best helping & personal site I know of I make money with it. If I ask an opinion, I show customers the result which gives me credability. Sometimes I'm searching for hours for an answer and SQLTeam delivers it. Writing articles and giving good replies is not my strong point, so I think it's fair to support SQLTeam in another way.But I know that having a site with this speed costs money, so I was wondering if SQLTeam was a company and took assignments (SQL Projects and such), or made money in another way. Just curious. There's so much potential here that it's hard to believe this is made just for the love of SQL .Henri~~~SQL is nothing, writing it everything. |
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Page47
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker
2878 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 16:05:20
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it's hard to believe this is made just for the love of SQL .
I know...sick isn't it? It makes you just wanna ...<O> |
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graz
Chief SQLTeam Crack Dealer
4149 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 16:47:17
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But I know that having a site with this speed costs money, so I was wondering if SQLTeam was a company and took assignments (SQL Projects and such), or made money in another way. Just curious. There's so much potential here that it's hard to believe this is made just for the love of SQL
Love SQL? Some days I curse it more than I love it :) You can read more about the site at http://www.sqlteam.com/Site/About.asp and http://www.sqlteam.com/item.asp?ItemID=4592. I do SQL Server consulting. I'm a partner in a business called ClearData Consulting (www.cleardata.biz). We do SQL Server consulting and hand-held development and the odd web site. I use the site as an online resume. I had hoped to use it to generate leads but that hasn't worked out so well. Many of the people that visit the site and post Ask SQLTeam questions don't seem too excited about hiring a consultant. They want an answer for free. I also haven't broadcast the consulting business behind the site -- that just seems crass. I am planning to add a small button to the site linking to ClearData at some point in the future. I really haven't tried to "monetize" the site as much as I could. I won't even run pop-up ads on the site. So if you anyone looking for a part-time SQL Server DBA or a hand-held app developed, send 'em my way :)I would like for the site to benefit myself and ClearData. I'd also like it to be a place where people are comfortable contributing content and don't feel as if they are just making me rich (hah!). I'm really a big fan of building a community and providing a structure to allow others to contribute content. So far I've chosen to err on the side of non-capitalism.quote:
If I read Rob Volk's profile I notice he's working for SQL Team.
This is something I wanted to comment on earlier but forgot. Rob isn't employed by SQLTeam. SQLTeam doesn't employ anyone. The money the site earns goes to hosting and providing benefits to authors such as shirts and books. I managed to get Rob and Merkin autographed copies of Ken Henderson's latest book -- woo hoo! That's their payment :) Everyone whose written articles has done so freely without being compensated. Rob and Merkin have been a tremendous help running the site -- especially when I've been unavailable -- and I'll never be able to thank them enough. They do this out of the goodness of their hearts and do wish I could pay them. I guess they'll have to be happy with the fame and glory they've earned here :)===============================================Creating tomorrow's legacy systems today.One crisis at a time. |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
15732 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-21 : 21:26:25
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Rob isn't employed by SQLTeam.
ENSLAVED to SQL Team is more like it! Addicted! It consumes my every waking moment!quote:
I managed to get Rob and Merkin autographed copies of Ken Henderson's latest book -- woo hoo! That's their payment :)
And when I tried to pawn it, they offered substantially less than the cover price! Can you believe it? A rare autographed copy, in perfect condition! Wait till Ken hears about this! (OK, I'm joking here)quote:
Everyone whose written articles has done so freely without being compensated.
Compensated, no. Hassled relentlessly to deliver Part II of an article (actually, SEVERAL articles), YES! If you are a masochist, I suppose that could be considered compensation.quote:
Rob and Merkin have been a tremendous help running the site -- especially when I've been unavailable -- and I'll never be able to thank them enough.
Shhhhhh, don't tell graz, but Merkin and I are planning a coup to overthrow the current SQL Team regime. Don't worry, no assassination planned; in fact a comfortable exile is in the works...if we can get DisneyWorld tickets cheap. KIDDING AGAIN! God, you people are SOOOOOOOOOO serious!quote:
They do this out of the goodness of their hearts...
Actually I do this to feed my monstrous ego, as I'm sure everyone has guessed by now  Hey, look at that, 4000 posts, who's da man? quote:
...and do wish I could pay them.
NOT AS MUCH AS I DO! Man, I HATE waiting until mac & cheese is on sale! Ramen noodles three meals a day SUCKS! Being a welfare leech on society isn't as glamourous as they make it appear.quote:
I guess they'll have to be happy with the fame and glory they've earned here :)
Yep, that and a $1.50 will get me mugged on the subway... I'M KIDDING! |
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Nazim
A custom title
1408 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-22 : 01:51:28
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Yeah, thats the right word. though i have a sore finger .it hurts when i type but still cant keep away from SQLTeam .quote:
ENSLAVED to SQL Team is more like it! Addicted! It consumes my every waking moment!
This would be fun . graz getting a project and making us work on it. a perfect use of Net . When internet was new everyone where like with coming on net people dont have to go to their office they can work from their home's. but then it never happened. may be at SQLTeam we can demonstrate it doing a SQL Projects. quote:
if SQLTeam was a company and took assignments (SQL Projects and such), or made money in another way. Just curious. There's so much potential here that it's hard to believe this is made just for the love of SQL
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-22 : 02:15:50
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graz getting a project and making us work on it.
But would we use identity columns ?Damian |
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Nazim
A custom title
1408 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-22 : 02:23:40
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| Ask Rob, he will give you a rant on raising that question. its obvious we will avoid it as much as possible, but one thing for sure if Rob is the Project leader he will avoid it like a plague .-------------------------------------------------------------- |
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KHeon
Posting Yak Master
135 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-23 : 07:53:55
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| graz -What types of articles would you be interested? Are there any topics you'd like covered?Kyle HeonPixelMEDIA, Inc.Senior Application Programmer, MCPkheon@pixelmedia.com |
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M.E.
Aged Yak Warrior
539 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-23 : 10:24:36
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ENSLAVED to SQL Team is more like it! Addicted! It consumes my every waking moment!
I'm getting the odd feeling that I should run from this site well I still can. Or not, time to hit the forums and see what I can answer. quote:
Many of the people that visit the site and post Ask SQLTeam questions don't seem too excited about hiring a consultant. They want an answer for free.
Lol, I think we're all to willing to give it for free. I've been doing support for 4 of them over email (My hotmail account is full of emails, all having some sql code in em.. how sad). I understand their projects bout as well as I understand the ones I'm getting paid to work on. Heh, maybe I should ask them to put my name on the about page so I can use em as references ;) |
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graz
Chief SQLTeam Crack Dealer
4149 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-23 : 10:29:56
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graz -What types of articles would you be interested? Are there any topics you'd like covered?
Picking topics is half the challenge of writing articles :) I'm looking for some articles on replication. We're weak on analysis services also. Really, the area you know best is probably the best area to write about. And read http://www.sqlteam.com/writeforus.asp.===============================================Creating tomorrow's legacy systems today.One crisis at a time. |
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graz
Chief SQLTeam Crack Dealer
4149 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-23 : 10:31:29
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I am talking cash :-)Writing articles cost lots of time, and time is money. It's that simple. So I'm not really planning to write articles (or buy books, because I dislike books)), or answering a lot of questions, there're others who do that better, so the only thing left is getting rid of some money. But only to support the site and the service provided.
Thanks for your contribution Henri. I certainly do appreciate it!-graz===============================================Creating tomorrow's legacy systems today.One crisis at a time. |
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henrikop
Constraint Violating Yak Guru
280 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-23 : 10:39:04
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| You're welcome .As been said before, this *really* is a strong site, with an excellent forum.No flaming and most users 'stick' around. It feels like a solid backup in times of need.I hope to stick around and maybe write some articles in the future....Henri~~~SQL is nothing, writing it everything. |
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Nazim
A custom title
1408 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-23 : 10:41:48
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M.E though i appreciate your gesture of helping people . but wouldnt it be nice if the discussion is kept on the forum. when you help people thru email (esp when you pick them from the forum) it defeats the very purpose of forums.Morever,Every post is read and followed keenly here, benefiting lot of people. I hope you take it in positive stride .quote:
I've been doing support for 4 of them over email (My hotmail account is full of emails, all having some sql code in em.. how sad)This is a good suggestion , lets see how many people will go and tell their boss "No its not me who solved this problem, its this guy on SQLTeam.com"quote:
maybe I should ask them to put my name on the about page so I can use em as references ;)
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M.E.
Aged Yak Warrior
539 Posts |
Posted - 2002-05-23 : 11:23:55
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This is a good suggestion , lets see how many people will go and tell their boss "No its not me who solved this problem, its this guy on SQLTeam.com"
Lol, twas a joke Nazim quote:
but wouldnt it be nice if the discussion is kept on the forum. when you help people thru email (esp when you pick them from the forum) it defeats the very purpose of forums.Morever,Every post is read and followed keenly here, benefiting lot of people.
I agree, but people seem to be more willing to send you there 5 pages of code and the sort in an email rather then posting on the board. If they feel more comfortable using email to send me code to trouble shoot, I'll try to help them the same way I try to help anyone on the forum. |
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