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setbasedisthetruepath
Used SQL Salesman
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 Posted - 2002-10-03 : 10:59:08
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| I have been searching quite extensively over the past few weeks for an early stage database-oriented firm in Madison, WI without success. Does anyone currently work for one or able to point me in a better direction to find one?Any help on the subject would be greatly appreciated. - JonathanPS. By database-oriented (on this site) I naturally mean SQL Server.Jonathan{0} |
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setbasedisthetruepath
Used SQL Salesman
992 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-07 : 10:15:26
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| Anyone?Jonathan{0}Edited by - setbasedisthetruepath on 10/08/2002 11:36:32 |
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AjarnMark
SQL Slashing Gunting Master
3246 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-08 : 18:19:33
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Anyone?
Bueller?Sorry Jonathan, no help here, but if you know anyone who needs a database guy in the Seattle area, send 'em my way. |
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M.E.
Aged Yak Warrior
539 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-08 : 18:31:39
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I really dont like this. Guys who seem to know so much more about sql server than me that can't find jobs :PCan I attach a plug myself here? If anyone needs a dba guy who will move anywhere to work for bread and water... point them at me Well how bout bread and  ?-----------------------SQL isn't just a hobby, It's an addiction |
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AjarnMark
SQL Slashing Gunting Master
3246 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-08 : 19:37:41
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a dba guy who will move anywhere to work for bread and water...
THERE is a key difference. I'm asking for a little more than that.  |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-08 : 19:42:08
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| Mark needs a Soy-Chai-Mocha-Freppe-Latte With a twist of LemonDamian |
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AjarnMark
SQL Slashing Gunting Master
3246 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-08 : 19:49:57
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And a dash of cinnamon on top.  |
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M.E.
Aged Yak Warrior
539 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-09 : 12:08:21
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| Hey, how else do you get to 5 years experience?-----------------------SQL isn't just a hobby, It's an addiction |
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setbasedisthetruepath
Used SQL Salesman
992 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-09 : 13:25:12
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| I've been hijacked!Jonathan{0} |
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Lavos
Posting Yak Master
200 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-10 : 04:57:51
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| My god, someone call the FBI, we need to get SETBASED back!!!!Seriously though, I'm going to start working in a Krogers while writing a few things on the side until I get back into school. I'm a little worse off than some since I "don't have experience" and no degree. (gawd, if only I could've jumped on the tech boom bandwagon a couple of years ago) Blah.I wish you luck in your search, but apparently the market is rough right now. (on the other hand, I'm constantly seeing cobol stuff for state governments if you are interested in that :)----------------------"O Theos mou! Echo ten labrida en te mou kephale!" |
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AjarnMark
SQL Slashing Gunting Master
3246 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-10 : 20:07:49
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I've been hijacked!
Sorry Jonathan, my bad.  Wish I could point you toward something, but no luck. |
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nr
SQLTeam MVY
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Posted - 2002-10-11 : 04:54:47
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| I'm also looking for a company who wants to design a new system or wants to redesign an old (and I even don't care too much about money anymore - would rather not work at a loss but sometimes do it for free).Unfortunately it seems common practise to allow design to be run by people who know nothing about databases (either because they're cheap or are in charge of the application) then try to keep systems running by patching them up. Of course at this point the designer (and team) won't admit he's screwed up so will try to avoid taking on any real expertise until he's forced to and will try to make it as difficult as possible for anyone coming in.==========================================Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.DTS can be used in a similar way.Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy. |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
15732 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-11 : 11:03:09
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| I just got this link from Femenella:http://www.rentacoder.com/You can bid on projects for programming, database design and redesign, whole bunch of stuff. There is a major database rewrite project in there Nigel, if you're interested in looking (database section), but it requires a signed, scanned and emailed NDA before they give any details.Didn't see anything specific for Madison though, but I didn't look very hard either.HTH |
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setbasedisthetruepath
Used SQL Salesman
992 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-11 : 11:34:43
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There is a major database rewrite project in there Nigel, if you're interested in looking (database section), but it requires a signed, scanned and emailed NDA before they give any details.
Thanks Rob for the site, it looks pretty good.I did see a database job which required a signed NDA - as an equity partner in several ventures now and past, I've seen my share of NDA's and I would warn anyone to read that one very carefully. First, it does not name the company, which is in effect forcing you to sign a blank check, and second, it refers to the developer as 'employee' - not an accurate representation of the developer/company relationship here. It seems that this is the standard way rentacoder.com handles NDA's ... I dunno.Jonathan{0} |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
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Posted - 2002-10-11 : 11:54:16
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Yeah, I have to agree with you there.Just a note for anyone else who peruses Rent-A-Coder or other similar sites, regarding NDA's: some of them may say "you should have your attorney check this before signing", some of them may not. Regardless, MAKE SURE YOU GET SOME LEGAL ADVICE BEFORE YOU SIGN ANYTHING. Sorry if this is obvious to many, but for those who are new to it, unfortunately it's too easy for someone to hijack Rent-A-Coder for talent to produce The Next Big Thing and leave the people who actually created it in the cold. Worse, in Jonathan's example, you could end up legally responsible for any financial misdeeds the company/employer commits (which happens SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO rarely these days)  And if the job sounds or feels shady, or too good to be true, it probably is. Check on the people before you get involved. (there are already a bunch of college students looking for people to do their comp-sci projects, or trying to be the next Napster)Edited by - robvolk on 10/11/2002 11:58:35 |
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AjarnMark
SQL Slashing Gunting Master
3246 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-13 : 15:30:45
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| Hey, as long as we're dishing out legal commentary (but NOT advice! -- that's my legal disclaimer) for anyone who is looking to get into being an independent contractor, get yourself an attorney! I have a good friend who went through quite a battle with the IRS who wanted to declare that although he claimed to be a contractor, his actual work setting/practices indicated he was really an employee and owed massive back taxes and penalties, etc. as did his 'employer'.Spend the money to find out what you need to do to make sure the IRS doesn't flip-flop you. |
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nr
SQLTeam MVY
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Posted - 2002-10-14 : 07:58:23
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| Committing to an nda before receiving details isn't unusual if the project idea is new or the company is concerned about the market knowing what it is doing (e.g. it might give a hint that they can't support there products.). Anything that does not restrict very closely what is covered is a no-no.Not specifying all companies and persons involved is a bit of a joke (and easy to get out of).Always worry about sites like this. I notice there are quite a few asking for an approach outline - bit like getting people to design your system at an interviews.Re: IRS - yeah - same thing happens with inland revenue in the UK at the moment. If you're investigated they say you're an employee and see if you can afford to prove them wrong. Part of the effort to kill off the IT industry in the UK.==========================================Cursors are useful if you don't know sql.DTS can be used in a similar way.Beer is not cold and it isn't fizzy. |
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Wanted: Early stage Madison, WI company