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Sitka
Aged Yak Warrior
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 Posted - 2002-10-13 : 20:12:19
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| "Oh yes brothers and sisters....I have seen the promised land"Hope Jim Goodnight's methods become industry wide.Voted best SQL forum nickname...."Tutorial-D" |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
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Posted - 2002-10-13 : 20:19:37
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| What the hell are you talking about ?Damian |
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Sitka
Aged Yak Warrior
571 Posts |
Posted - 2002-10-14 : 00:50:12
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| There was a piece on 60 minutes about the software company SAS and the owner. They painted this utopian picture of a work environment. Health clubs, restaurants, own schedule, 35 hour weeks, good pay, low stress, plus plus plus every perk imaginable. (no stock options though as there aren't any) The other side was the cult like perfection of it all and references to velvet handcuffs.Far-outVoted best SQL forum nickname...."Tutorial-D" |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
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Posted - 2002-10-14 : 08:41:26
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| I've got news for you, MANY MANY Silicon Valley companies offered all of those thing to their employees already. Most notable among them was Adobe. They even allowed you to bring your pets to work and had a concierge to walk them and pick up your dry cleaning and other errands. One company even picked a guy out of college, gave him a ridiculous salary, and picked up his dues at the local Class A country club (several thousand dollars annually)Since then every one of those companies has either gone out of business or laid off so many people that there aren't enough to justify the expense. If SAS is doing this now, don't worry, they'll be forced to stop. And if they're contemplating doing it, hopefully someone will see what that kind of extravagance did for American companies and put a halt to it. |
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Sitka
Aged Yak Warrior
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Posted - 2002-10-14 : 09:55:39
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Yeah I have heard stories, this was a supposed demonstration of an enduring one(maybe) where things hadn't dissassembled themselves.Hence the twist to the story. That things hadn't changed, because it was a private company. It painted a rosey picture for sure. One of the main points was, "Everyday 90 percent of my assets walk out the door, it is my job to get them to come back." No one leaves, three percent turnover. Obviously the last few years skews that one cause it's a case of "where are ya going to go".Just pointing out the model to all the future software giants here. . I recall the celebratory TV commercials showing young companies going public as the holy grail. SAS would be the other side of the coin and along with that duality, a myriad of political/economic interpretations.Indeed, "Hope Jim Goodnight's methods become industry wide."was said  in cheek and with little point of reference. If companies fold because of spending on the perks and skilled folks get cut because rule based firings are the only way to cut cost to keep earnings inflated to meet the 'street' that sucks for sure. However there was the tacit emphasis that skills and deployment will win over capital. Ya should have seen these folks, the owner included, not a sign of stress in any of them. Lobotimies? maybe or real life Simpsons/Dr. Evil episode.Voted best SQL forum nickname...."Tutorial-D" |
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SAS on 60 Minutes