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Crespo
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 Posted - 2002-12-02 : 13:34:29
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This is to all who bothered reading all the stuff that was posted about the custom titles business.Before I quit this site, I thought I would mention a few points to clear some issues.I asked the SQL-team **nicely** about the meaning behind the custom title and how to obtain one..... the responses I got from the team were very fair, and that was that.However it did not stop there.. some of the other replies were amazingly pathetic (like the one from nr I think, saying something like 'How about young title pleader' or something like that.) Now I can take a joke, but at the end of the day, I asked a simple question and the SQL team answered it...I thought it was quite amusing to get a poem written about me and to be honestI thought the whole thing was just a joke... even the next couple of threads were just a bit of fun.... YES I did see the funny side to it eventually!Anyway, my point is very simple.... if I was so desperate to get a bloody title I would have posted away day and night answering silly questions or adding silly comments, but I don't do that sort of stuff.In fact my posting progress has been abysmal over the last couple of weeks I think. Hardly a question asked and no help given at all. Now you all make me out to be some idiot you just wants a custom title, well sorry but how many posts do I have?! Have I managed to reach 80 over the last 6 months?!As for being rude last week... YES..... I admit to that and I have no excuses at all and I will say sorry to everyone for soundsing like an asshole... (hope you accept it).Oh and about being rude and stuff to the SQL team. Well I am sorry, saying the truth does not make it 'NOT NICE'... I simply stated the obvious......Anyhow... the fact that the member who got the title has had it removed is a clear sign for me to move on and leave you guys in peace. Man.. I swear I did not intend for this thing to come so far.... I never bicthed about the titles until someone else mentioned and some n00b started warning... that's what really did it.... I mean... telling me I am asking for trouble is f**king pathetic!Bah... anyhow....  Thank you all for your help... you saved me loads of time with your answers.SQLteam PLEASE REMOVE my name from your database...Bye  Best Regards.Crespo.Hewitt Bacon & WoodrowEpsomSurreyUnited Kingdom |
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JustinBigelow
SQL Gigolo
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Posted - 2002-12-02 : 14:41:27
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Don't go man. I made a post in jest about the nascar thing that was supposed to indicate that titles are pretty trivial overall. I didnt mean for the joke to be at your expense (but I guess it reads that way  ).Rob was the one that warned you to avoid disaster but judging by the levity in alot his posts I don't think it was a threat. More like a "watch out or Merkin will give you a lame title" kind of warning. None of the regulars on this site are spiteful or enjoy giving other posters a hard time. I've only had a hand in running off one other poster so far (the infamous dtong) and I don't want a part in running off another (pretty soon graz would stop putting up with my antics  ).So unless you're dead set on leaving I for one encourage you to stay. Hope to see you on the boards.Justinoops, the Rob mentioned above is rrb and not robvolk. Should have made that clearer. Edited by - justinbigelow on 12/02/2002 14:42:55 |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
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Posted - 2002-12-02 : 17:00:30
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| Crespo, I think you need to take a few deep breaths and chill out a bit.If you look through the history of these forums, particularly the Yak Corral, you will find that threads tend to run away into silliness. This is all that happened here. There is no dark conspiricy there. As for rrb's "warning", if you notice, he was the guy who wrote the poem..it's all in fun.As for the "member who got the title", well hey, so what ? Yes it is a friend of a moderator. So what if they got a custom title as part of a private joke, it shouldn't be that big a deal.I think if you leave in a huff, the only person that will lose out is you. If you stick around and participate in SQL related discussion, then everyone can benefit.Damian |
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate
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Posted - 2002-12-02 : 17:53:22
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Now I can take a joke, but at the end of the day, I asked a simple question and the SQL team answered it...
(without meaning to sound heartless - I'm struggling to see a problem here. But maybe I am just an absolute bastard?)quote:
I thought it was quite amusing to get a poem written about me
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and to be honestI thought the whole thing was just a joke...
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In fact my posting progress has been abysmal over the last couple of weeks I think. Hardly a question asked and no help given at all
well you're in very good company therequote:
I never bicthed about the titles until someone else mentioned and some n00b started warning... that's what really did it.... I mean... telling me I am asking for trouble is f**king pathetic!
n00b? don't worry - no offence takenquote:
p**s off you aussie b*st*rd.
thanks nr - taken the way it was intended--I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money" |
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate
1479 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-02 : 18:16:37
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Crespo stop now and avoid disaster
Hey Crespo - an explanationAs a starting point consider the differences between Britain and the USA in terms of ‘understatement’ versus ‘overstatement’. […] Both are forms of boasting or ways of asserting oneself. Davies (1982) argues that the British understatement mode comes from the public school. Its social class origins are mock aristocratic. It is characterized by ritualised restraint, by the avoidance of open, vulgar striving. In Britain using overstatement as a source of humour would be considered ‘bad form’.OK - I hadn't read that before....alsoThe function of humor as a defense mechanism in Australian society is to provide a defense against the environment. […] This form of humor, which made outsiders laugh, derived not from mirth but from the reality of life in the bush. […] Even in the way Australian males greet one another, a defense mechanism is obvious. Instead of using terms of endearment, they use insults. They punch one another on the arm and say ‘Good-day, you old bastard’ as a defense against their true feelings.and finallyIt seems that in Australia, people can only get along with anything if they laugh at it. Integration is practised by telling one another that he or she is a bastard. This sounds paradox to a European, but it marks the Aussie self-assured, even condescending attitude towards anything which and anyone who might cause problems. People laugh at their own mistakes, their misfortunes, their failures. Even more, however, they laugh what the stranger or mate (in fact, any stranger is a mate to an Australian, the only thing is that he respects neither of them) has done or said.I really sincerely apologise for any offence taken. I'm small fry here with no power to do anything at all - except reply to your posts. I had assumed that you realised that therefore my warning was humours overstatement and not sincere.(boy jokes are never as funny when you explain them)you can read more [url]http://www1.ku-eichstaett.de/SLF/EngluVglSW/schule12.doc[/url]--I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money"Edited by - rrb on 12/02/2002 18:17:34 |
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Crespo
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Posted - 2002-12-03 : 04:35:00
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Crespo stop now and avoid disaster
Hey Crespo - an explanationAs a starting point consider the differences between Britain and the USA in terms of ‘understatement’ versus ‘overstatement’. […] Both are forms of boasting or ways of asserting oneself. Davies (1982) argues that the British understatement mode comes from the public school. Its social class origins are mock aristocratic. It is characterized by ritualised restraint, by the avoidance of open, vulgar striving. In Britain using overstatement as a source of humour would be considered ‘bad form’.OK - I hadn't read that before....alsoThe function of humor as a defense mechanism in Australian society is to provide a defense against the environment. […] This form of humor, which made outsiders laugh, derived not from mirth but from the reality of life in the bush. […] Even in the way Australian males greet one another, a defense mechanism is obvious. Instead of using terms of endearment, they use insults. They punch one another on the arm and say ‘Good-day, you old bastard’ as a defense against their true feelings.and finallyIt seems that in Australia, people can only get along with anything if they laugh at it. Integration is practised by telling one another that he or she is a bastard. This sounds paradox to a European, but it marks the Aussie self-assured, even condescending attitude towards anything which and anyone who might cause problems. People laugh at their own mistakes, their misfortunes, their failures. Even more, however, they laugh what the stranger or mate (in fact, any stranger is a mate to an Australian, the only thing is that he respects neither of them) has done or said.I really sincerely apologise for any offence taken. I'm small fry here with no power to do anything at all - except reply to your posts. I had assumed that you realised that therefore my warning was humours overstatement and not sincere.(boy jokes are never as funny when you explain them)you can read more [url]http://www1.ku-eichstaett.de/SLF/EngluVglSW/schule12.doc[/url]--I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money"Edited by - rrb on 12/02/2002 18:17:34
Damage has been done.... Best Regards.Crespo.Hewitt Bacon & WoodrowEpsomSurreyUnited Kingdom |
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mr_mist
Grunnio
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Posted - 2002-12-03 : 04:49:34
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I've read some of these posts in the Yak Corral and even as a Brit at no point did I think that anyone was being entirely serious. Crespo, you seem unneccessarily tense. I don't think anyone has ever been particularly insulting. Indeed I don't think that anyone would have posted anything unless they believed that you would take it in the fun spirit in which it was intended. Of course I could be barking up the wrong tree here and all the posters could be complete gits.  -------Moo. |
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Crespo
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Posted - 2002-12-03 : 05:12:39
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I've read some of these posts in the Yak Corral and even as a Brit at no point did I think that anyone was being entirely serious. Crespo, you seem unneccessarily tense. I don't think anyone has ever been particularly insulting. Indeed I don't think that anyone would have posted anything unless they believed that you would take it in the fun spirit in which it was intended. Of course I could be barking up the wrong tree here and all the posters could be complete gits. -------Moo.
What you say is perfectly true, but the damage has been done. There is nothing I can do about it now.Best Regards.Crespo.Hewitt Bacon & WoodrowEpsomSurreyUnited Kingdom |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
4970 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-03 : 05:52:41
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the damage has been done.
In that case, what are you still doing here ?If you are going to be like that, when people are trying to give you a go, try to explain there was no harm meant, and keep you around, then just go. And don't let the door hit you on the way out.You know what you have done, you have admitted you were rude and insulting about the custom titles, not to mention your little public tantrum when Graz didn't snap to attention when you sent him an email about articles.No one owes you a custom title or anything of the sort, in fact, with your behaviour you don't deserve much at all.Now, we can either 1. forget all of this and get back to discussing SQL Server.OR2. You can make good on your threat to leave, and we can go and do option 1.Obviously option 1 by itself would be better for everyone, but it is your call.Damian |
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Thanks and bye...