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Lavos
Posting Yak Master
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 Posted - 2002-12-09 : 18:38:17
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Seriously. I've been trying to get an answer to an ASP.NET related question for the last couple of days now, and nada, zilch, nothing. And it's a common problem. I've seen it talked about on web boards and in the newgroups in my searching, but I can't find the answer to it. Blech.  On the other hand, I think just about every honest question gets answered on here.In that vein, anyone know a good place to ask about web-service impersonation failing?----------------------"O Theos mou! Echo ten labrida en te mou kephale!" |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
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joldham
Wiseass Yak Posting Master
300 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-09 : 22:56:38
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| Lavos,Feel free to send me an email with your questions about asp.net. I don't know that I can answer it, but I will sure try.Jeremy |
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henrikop
Constraint Violating Yak Guru
280 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-10 : 03:14:04
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| ASP.NET is it!!In combination with SQL Server it's so freakin' fast. I made a few applications and two of my customers (company of 350 en 600 people) depend on it.There are a few minors, but these are overcome. It's easy to maintain, change, develop. Good scalability and no hassle with client computers as long as they have a decent browser.I don't know a lot about web-services, but if you got different questions I gladly help.Henri~~~SQL is nothing, writing it everything. |
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Sitka
Aged Yak Warrior
571 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-10 : 07:37:26
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try here, for a general summary to help with the "WHY's"http://portals.devx.com/SummitDays/Article/6666Then just a general tidbit I picked up...depending on your platform one importantaspect of a iis 6 and maybe iis 5.1 isthat there is a missing MIME type inthe base install."For a global machine dependent mime type affecting all web sitesIIS snap-in>right click machine>properties>mime typesAdd> .tmp, application/octet-streamRestart iis.Used to beNet stop iisadminNet start w3svcbut now there is a restart iis commandright click machine>all tasks>restart iisseems they do the same thing but I hearthere are some differences.This missing MIME type can wreak havoc when trying to set up a development environment. VS.NET etc. "...she does have nice breasts, and the beer there was extra cold"This is the social forums after all.  Edited by - sitka on 12/10/2002 07:57:15 |
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate
1479 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-10 : 19:25:42
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| OK - one for the dummies (that's me by the way)Currently I use asp with SQL Server 2000. I'd love to start migrating to asp.net.Can one of you legend gurus give me the quick 5 second review of:what version IIS i need to be running?what issues I'm likely to face?I've looked at a few .net sites, but obviously I'm missing something because their "hello world" examples just produce errors when I try them...--I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money" |
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!
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Posted - 2002-12-10 : 19:40:44
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| rrbJust install the framework or the SDK and you will be right. You don't need to upgrade IIS.Damian |
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate
1479 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-10 : 20:00:31
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| Thanks damian - you're always gracious with us dummies--I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money" |
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Tim
Starting Member
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Posted - 2002-12-10 : 20:15:29
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| biggest decision for me was to decide b/n code by hand or use a dev env like visual studio or web matrix. |
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate
1479 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-10 : 20:18:53
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b/n code
huh?--I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money" |
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Lavos
Posting Yak Master
200 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-10 : 21:23:56
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| Well, thanks for the responses, I never did find the exact thing that I was looking for, but did find a tidbit when I just started reading random topics that helped me figure out what I needed to do.Unfortunately, the webservice now fails for a completely different reason than it did before. LOL. (this time it's COM related. pfffft. It still works perfectly on my workstation though.) I see a COM+ package in my future :(I love C# and .NET, but they just didn't test .NET in a server environment sufficiently. I've seen a lot of stupid things that are written off as "by design", or just straight up bugs. Here's one. Put an asp.net project in a directory that the ASPNET account has full permissions on, but stick it underneath a directory that it has no permissions on. It bombs out because the underlying windows API it uses attempts to enumerate the entire directory tree. Strangely, the filesystem watcher works just fine. My friend and coworker has an app that randomly switches accounts that aspnet_wp is trying to login as. Don't get me started on the crypto key store and web apps.Other than when I hit an undocumented dead-end, I really enjoy it all. (Of course, now I'm eagerly awaiting intellisense in query analyzer, but I could just be spoiled.)Well, I've still got a lot of reading left to do. (And a lot of DB hacking to do, the application I'm now in charge of extending started out with 2-3 primary keys and no indexes or foreign keys. Thank God that the previous guy at least only used stored procedures to access it instead of using queries in code. Unfortunately, the number of SELECT *'s coupled with client side sqlDataReader[0].ToString()'s in his code are scary. It's been a lot of fun so far. (Seriously, I can't wait until I get a chance to go back and remove all his cursors and gratuitous IF's))----------------------"O Theos mou! Echo ten labrida en te mou kephale!" |
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Sitka
Aged Yak Warrior
571 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-11 : 08:32:16
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| There are two fundamentally different ways to move to .NET now.The framework overlay to iis 5 which creates 5.1 or the unique iis 6 which runs on .NET server.The .NET server version is available now as RC2, if you sign up for the Customer Preview Program (CPP). I really recommend setting up a dev box and utilizing this rather than the framework plus 5.0. IIS 6 is very different than IIS 5.x but the ASP.NET applications are the same. I'm just saying this because why learn the stop gap nuances of IIS 5.1 when the real deal is out there. So the scenrio would be you develop your apps on .NET server and they exist as they were intended. Then if your production server is going to stay at 5.1 you basically shoehorn (security only, not code) the rollout backwards because that is what would happen anyway if you originally developed it on 5.1. It just seems to me that in the dabbling stage, like me too, why develop stategies to a non native platform and then have to relearn the proper ones. This is my take on the security context link I pointed out and experience thus far. The security aspects of .NET I feel are the real challenge as getting code in the web apps has never been easier, but will be frustrating if the security ideas aren't understood. M$, I imagine will provide refined baseline security configs and wizards to set up certain application "roles?" but once the gloves come off and you are out there are exploting the power of SQLXML services and SQLDataConnector and all the cool stuff I hope to have a slight insight into the tokens,ACLS,impersonations,logins involved.I have seen reams of Lavos style questions out there and like was pointed out answers are tough to find. Like most good stuff it is easy to see that knowing the 'Why"s' of ASP.Net are more valuable than the 'How"s'. Millions of pages on 'How"s' to write ASP.NET. Not so many to find out 'Why"s' it keeps throwing an error. 1.0.3705"...yeah kids are fine, Jannie bought a new 4X4. Did you hear what happened to that weird dude that used to walk up and down the highway with tin foil wrapped around his head?"Voted best SQL forum nickname...."Tutorial-D"Edited by - sitka on 12/11/2002 08:37:28 |
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Tim
Starting Member
392 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-11 : 18:34:39
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| b/n = between |
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate
1479 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-11 : 18:45:00
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ah - the light dawns - how poetic  --I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money" |
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Crespo24
Village Idiot
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Posted - 2002-12-13 : 06:13:26
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Seriously. I've been trying to get an answer to an ASP.NET related question for the last couple of days now, and nada, zilch, nothing. And it's a common problem. I've seen it talked about on web boards and in the newgroups in my searching, but I can't find the answer to it. Blech. On the other hand, I think just about every honest question gets answered on here.In that vein, anyone know a good place to ask about web-service impersonation failing?----------------------"O Theos mou! Echo ten labrida en te mou kephale!"
Yea... this site does rock.... that's why I am back... I guess you don't appreciate something until you lose it..... (Doesn't apply to my ex though...  ).Don't worry peeps... (you won't get shit from me I promise)------------------------- |
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rrb
SQLTeam Poet Laureate
1479 Posts |
Posted - 2002-12-15 : 17:03:54
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| Yay Crespo - the SQL Night Elf lives!Glad to see you're back with no hard feelings - --I hope that when I die someone will say of me "That guy sure owed me a lot of money" |
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